The Departure: What Is It?

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"Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction..." (2 Thess. 2; W.E.B.)

Also Translated Departure In Wycliffe, Tyndale, Coverdale, Geneva, And Others Here.

 

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"And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:" (Ephesians 2)

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The Great Apostasy

 

Is The Great Departure Of Second Thessalonians Two, A Rapture Of The Church In The End Days, A Departure From The Faith Into A Moral Legalism And Jewish Wannabeism,  Into Heresy And Darkness Or All The Above?

 

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (From Where?); 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. ...6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of (the) faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained." (1 Timothy 4)

Here The Apostasy/Departure (Same Greek Word) Is Of Some, Not Many And Unlike Second Thessalonians, And In The Greek It Tells Us What The Departure Is From, i.e., 'The Faith.'

Now I Cannot Imagine The Apostate Church Being Worse Than It Is Already, Unless The Church And The Holy Spirit Depart. Second Thessalonians Two Suggests That This May Be The Case, Specifically vv. 3, 7. Imagine Who Would Take Over Our 'Christian' Institutions. The Apostates From The So Called 'Jesus Seminar' Already Occupy The Pulpits In Some Of Our Churches, Homosexuals Ordaining And Marrying Homosexuals It Goes On And On. This Has To Be Part Of The Apostasy.

But My Main Point Here Is Not To Argue One Way Or The Other On The Rapture, But To Bring Up The Different Aspects Of This Apostasy/Departure. Here Is A Rebuttal Of The Use Of The Word 'Departure' Here.

 

The Departure Appears To Also Be From Relationship (God Reaching Down) To Religion Man Trying To Climb To God), Not Relationship To Non Relationship.

Doctrines Of Devils?

What Is The Nature Of The Devil?

He Imitates The Real Thing But Upon Closer Scrutiny We See A Difference That Can Be Deadly.

"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him...For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." (2 Corinthians 11)

The Jesus Of Catholicism, Though Defined As God In Their Creed, Is An Impotent Saviour Which Cannot Save To The Uttermost And His Sacrifice Isn't Once For All. In Fact He Shares The Podium With His Mommy. This Is How Islam Came to The Conclusion That 'Mary' Was One Of The Persons Of The Trinity, And Rightly Reacted But In The Wrong Way To That.

Read The Scripture And 'Know That You Have Eternal Life' (1 John 5:13), Read The Words Of Men And Never Be Sure You Have Eternal Life. This Is Why When You Ask A Catholic Whether He Knows He Is Saved/Born Again/Going To Heaven, He Cannot Answer In The Affirmative.

This Is When You Say This.

This Is Why Groups Such As The Catholics Keep Their Congregants Ever Indebted To Them, Substituting Sacraments Rather Than Works, To Counterbalance The Insecurity They've Created In Them.

Some Of My Relatives And Others Think I'm Making A Mountain Out Of A Moehill When I Insist On Celebrating The Real Jesus And Gospel On Christmas And Not Another. My Eternal Destiny Depends On It. (Galatians 1:8,9)

 

What Else Does The Devil Do?

 

He Presents Half Truths From Scripture Then Presents His Other Half From Elsewhere To Complete It.

 

Your Success Depends On Presenting Half The Story As The Whole Story 

Sounds Like Catholicism And Jewish Wannabeism But In 1 Tim. 4 Paul Speaks Of 'The Apostasy' In The Later Times As If It Was Unique. Catholicism Would Fit The Bill Better.

What Is Jewish Wannabeism Here.

Stan Telchin Quotes A William Varner Who Says, "I Do Not Believe That Messianic Judaism  And Messianic Synagogues Have A Biblical, Theological, Historical Or Pragmatic Justification." ('Messianic Congregations Are Not Necessary,' How Jewish Is Christianity?, pg 48)

Stan Telchin From His Own Book, Called, 'Messianic Judaism IS NOT Christianity' Goes On To Show That Messianic Congregations Are Filled With Mostly Gentiles/Jewish Wannabes.

 

Still, The Forbidding Of Marriage And Abstaining From Meat Is Primarily Catholic.

Has 'Forbidding Marriage', The Catholic Thou Shalt Nots Led To More Obedience?

I Think Not, In Fact More Abominable Acts Have Been Comitted Due To This.

Look At The Problems There Are In The Catholic Priesthood, Which By The Way Have No N.T. Support.

The Only Priesthood Is Of Every Believer. (Revelation 1)

Notice The Similarities Between Catholics And Jewish Wannabes In Their Belief System.

Jewish Wannabeism

You're A Hopeless Catholic If:

 

1) You think The Difference Between Justification and Sanctification is only one of spelling.

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You Think being Saved by Grace, through Faith is a Protestant Invention, and should be condemned.

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/howrome.htm

5) Think it is wrong for the cults to make other religious works equal to the Bible, but your religion is the exception to the rule.

7) You don't think forced celibacy has contributed at all to the sexual perversions of Catholic priests over the years. (1 Timothy 4:1-6)

9) Don't find it odd that the Maronic visions of Fatima and Lourdes are offering messages that are contrary to scripture. (Galatians 1:8,9)

22) Cannot say for sure whether you are saved (eternally insecure) but still think you can speak as an authority on what scripture really means. (John 17:3)

Do You Know?

 

Isn't Catholicism Just Modern Jewish Wannabeism That Has Replaced Israel With The Church And The Plain Sense Of Scripture With Nonsense?

"The Catholic Church Claims To Be The Mistress Of All Churches. (CANONS ON BAPTISM: Baptism, Canon 3-Catholic Council Of Trent.), While At The Same Time Thinking They Are Brothers To The Muslim. (Catechism Of The Catholic Church #841)

 

"SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM: "If anyone says that in the Roman Church, which is the mother and mistress of all churches, there is not the true doctrine concerning the sacrament of baptism, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA" (Canons on Baptism, Canon 3)."

"And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." (Revelation 17)

People Decry Individuals Or Groups That Dare Call A Spade A Spade Regarding Catholicism, Lumping Them With The Likes Of Jack Chick, But Facts Are Facts And By The Catholic Church's Own Admission And Straight From The Whores Mouth They Are In Effect The Most Dangerous Movement Out There.

What Is More Deceptive, That Which Is Clearly Unlike Christianity Or That Which Looks Very Similar To Christianity But Is Not?

Like Mamma And Papa, The Child Uses Extra Biblical Works As An Equal To Scripture To Shore Up Their Faith And Stain Scripture With A Meaning That Is Really Not There. A Religion That Teaches That 'Sacraments' Have Replaced The Law And This Is What Saves, Though One Can Never Say When That Is. Like A Hamster In A Wheel, Always Running But Never Getting Anywhere They Are Trying To Persuade Others To Join Them On This Wheel To Nowhere Because Misery Loves Company. While Presenting Their Message As Sweet Nectar Which In Reality Is A Poison That Quickly Kills.

Mistress Here Is The Whore/Harlot, Possibly The One Mentioned In Revelation Seventeen.

There Is A Debate As To Whether Rev. Seventeen Is Referring To Israel Or The Catholic Church, I Think Both.

They Have Replaced The Jew By Taking Part Of The Message Jesus Gave To Jews (Matt. 10:5ff), And Applying It To Themselves And Rather Than Also Receiving What New Things The Apostle Paul Said, Reject It. (Acts 20:27; 2 Peter 3:15ff; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:8ff)

Robbing Paul To Pay Peter

You're a Hopeless Replacement Theologian if you:

 

16) Became a Catholic because it was the closest thing to the Jewish Way that you could find. (Matthew 23)

17) Think that Christ's condemnation of 'calling men Father', putting tradition on a level equal to scripture, 'straining at gnats, swallowing camels' and not practicing what one preaches is something only applicable to the Jews of Old but not their replacements. (Matthew 23)

20) Don't think it odd that your whole view of the church is based completely on the Jewish Model. (Matthew 16:15; Acts 2)

25) Have Replaced Israel With The Catholic Church and Jesus With Mary

The Similarities Between Israel And Their So Called Replacements Are Too Numerous To Ignore.

The Messianic Movement Is At A Peak Today. Being A Part Of Many Egroups On The Internet I Have Seen A Great Wave Of Jewish Wannabes Forming Groups And Even Thinking They Are The Real Jews.

What Most Of Them Have In Common Is, A Belief That The Church Has Replaced Or Joined Israel To The Point Of Being Israel, Not Just A Part Of The Wild Olive Tree, A Works Oriented Salvation, Religion Rather Than Relationship, And Eschatology That Doesn't Differentiate Between Tribulation And The Tribulation, The Belief In Lost Books Which Further Clarify And/Or Other Religious Works That Supplement Scripture (66 Books) Itself.

No One Can Legitimately Come Up With This Jewish Wannabeism, Unless They Reject The Writings Of Paul Or Add To Scripture i.e.

'the doctrine of devils'

They Think They Are The Jews Replacement Though Won't Admit It, And Are Doing The Very Thing That Paul Condemned Peter For.

"I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? 15 "We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' 16 know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. ." (Galatians 2)

 

Catholicism Has Set The Pace For Other Cults, Denominations And Religions To Use Extrabiblical Nonsense To Colour The Meaning Of Scripture.

But Some Say, We Are The Orthodox Faith And Our Doctrines Are Completely Biblical.

Not Really!

Usually One Can Determine A Religions Soteriology By Their Theology And Christology.

Walter Martin Speaks On This: "For it is axiomatic that if the doctrine of Christ Himself, i.e., His Person [which includes His being the second person of the Trinity] nature and work are perverted, then the identity of the life-giver is altered, then the life which He came to give is correspondingly negated." (The Kingdom of the Cults , Bethany House Publishers)

But In The Case Of Catholicism The Belief In The Deity Of Christ And The Triunity Of God Has Fooled Christians Into Thinking That The Catholic Soteriology (How To Be Saved) Is Correct But It Is Not.

This Is A Difference That Will Mean The Difference Between Life And Death.

Now This Replacement Religion Seems To Be More What This Apostasy Is, Though There Are Certainly Instances Of Straying From 'The Faith' Into Immorality And Darkness.

"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:12)

"For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia." (2 Timothy 4:10)

"But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities." (2 Peter 2:10)

Perfection Doesn't Come From First Striving To Be Perfect But Comes From The Better Provision.

True Christianity is based on a better and greater Saviour than Moses (Hebrews 1:3,4; 3:3;7:7), a better hope (Hebrews 7:19), a better covenant (7:22;8:6), better promises (8:6), a better sacrifice (9:23), a better country (11:16), better things (11:40;12:24), a better resurrection (11:35), and a better and enduring substance (10:34)

"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit. 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." (Hebrews 6)

These Verses Are Often Used To Condemn And Scare Those That Walk Away From Christ And Christianity, But Really And Specifically This Is About Those That Go Back To An Incomplete Religion Where Men Are Back To Climbing Their Way To God.

'Crucifying To Themselves The Son Of God Again' Is Rejecting The Once And For All Time Sacrifice Of Christ.

"And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God" (Hebrews 10:12)

"He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? ...38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." (Hebrews 10)

Falling Away Here Appears To Be Going Back To The Law And Law Observance For Justification And Rejecting God's Grace.

"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed....3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? ... 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." ..Another Gospel... Not Another Gospel But Some Would PERVERT...Jewish Wannabeism....Bewitched... " (Galatians 1-3) Fall From Grace:

It Doesn't Matter Whether You're Works Are The Law Or Sacraments They Are Still Works (Titus 3:5) And This Ignores How Abraham Was Justified Which Was By Gods Grace, Faith And Nothing.

The Gospel Not Another But Is Perverted?

What Does This Mean?

Pervert: Pollute....

How Can One Pollute Something?

One Way Is To Add Something Else To It.

Does The Church Need To Be Removed To Have The Apostasy?

I Don't Think So, 'only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. ... ' Will. (2 Thess. 2)

However, There Is Another Side To Catholicism And Jewish Wannabeism. This Is Disobedience And Idolatry That Provides An Escape Clause For Those That Wanna Shirk Their Responsibilities As 'Christians.'

Also Note, You're A Hopeless Catholic And Replacement Theologian If:

14) Don't Think it peculiar that the Mafia and the Catholic Church thrive in the same place.

'Fadder forgive me I just whacked somebody....'

The Catholic Priesthood, Which Has No N.T. Scriptural Support Has The Same Weaknesses That The Old Did.

"Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." (Hebrews 9)

Jewish Wannabeism And Catholicism Reject The Once And For All Sacrifice Of Christ. (Hebrews 10:12) This Doesn't Result In More Obedience But More 'Blood Of Others' As This Verse Puts It.

"the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." (Revelation 17)

CANON 9: "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema." (Council Of Trent)

More Anathema's And Their Refutation Here.

Many Argue That A Once For All Sacrifice For All (Past, Present And Future) Sin Leads To Immorality. Nothing Could Be Further From The Truth.

"5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." (1 John 5)

When We Believe That Jesus Is The Son Of God, We Overcometh The World, The Spirit, Water And Blood Work Together To Make Us Righteous. The Blood Takes Away All Of Our Sin, The Spirit Sets Us Apart And Makes Us Into New Creations Then We Are Water Baptized As An Act Of Obedience After Salvation, To Represent Our Death, Burial And Resurrection With Christ.

Those That Think They Are Doing The Body A Service By Scaring Them Back To The  principles of the doctrine of Christ' Are In Reality Returning Folks To The Schoolmaster Never Graduating From Preschool.

New Creations Act As Such (2 Corinthians 5:17)

Who Knows, The Jewish Wannabes May Be Right In Their Eschatology And They May Not Depart This Earth Until After They Join Jacob (Jerry 30:7), In His Trouble.

Bj Maxwell

07/21/2010

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