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Children Of A Lesser Fraud: Should We Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils?

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What A Wonderful God: Under His Rainbow...Sing Along With Little Cindy
Fiddling With 'Fiddler On The Roof.'
Expose Them With God's Light, And Talk To The Aminals
Jewish Counter Missionary: These Are A Few Of My Favorite Things
Does eating MEAT make one fat?
BoldFingers Meets 'Super-Apostle': Sing Along
Pastorized To The Tune, 'Too Shy'
God's Healthcare Together: Death Panels Already Exist
Before Judaism It Was Better: Sing Along
It's More Blessed To Give And Receive!
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Dad Knew That, 'This Is Family:' Sing Along
If The Plain Sense/P'shat Makes Sense, Don't Mince/Panache
You Might Be An Illegal Immigrant Or His/Her Enabler If :
Just Like Those Egyptians: The Ex. Files
Drier Ground Or Ye Are Gods?
There Ought To Be NO Mormons After
Special Ed: Sing With Little Billy
Plain Sense Indicator: Mormonism
Maxwell's House Spiritual Virus Checker
Preterists/Gnostics And 'The Man Down Under': Sing Along
The Apostasy: What Is It?
Maxwell's House: Goods For Your Desktop
Take Your Kids To Branson And Save Them From Hell
Isaiah 53: Explained By Mitch Glaser...My Critique
The Branson Experiment
I Am The Virus: Sing Along
Why Do It God's Way?, To The Tune 'I Did It My Way'
What's The Matter In Your Eye, You Cookie Cutting, Half Truth Wielding Wonder?
The Name: Sing Along....One Faith For All
Your 'Jesus' Is Simply Way Too Small (2 Cor. 11)
My 12 Hates Of Christ-Miss, To The Tune Of 12 Days Of Christmas
The Great Offending Gold Plaited Turds, Meet The Great Conformers In The Anals Of History
As Cain Slew His Brother To The Lord Yeshu, Columbo Suspects The Highly (H)Acidic Jews
He Will Stomp You From We Will Rock You
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Should We Major On The Minors, And Minor On The Majors?
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Where Are You Located On This Chart?
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My, My How The Whole Truth Divides!!
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I Took The High Way: Sing Along
Bible Difficulties
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Your Own Poison-All Jesus
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Publicans And DUMacrats Ask: What's This Hole In My Head?
Cynthia's Corner
Here's Some Great News My Friend
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If Three Just Don't Agree, Then The Two Will Surely Do
Know When You're Done
The Eight Day Week And Keeping The Holi-Days Holy
The Departure: What Is It?
Group Think Or Whosoever Will Part 3
Jewish Wannabe:These Are A Few Of MY Favorite Things
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How Many Times Is Christ Coming?
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Children Of A Lesser Fraud: Should We Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils?
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Are You Odd Because You're God's?
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Jesus On Main Street/City Lights Coffeehouse
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Children Of A Lesser Fraud

New Lyrics Bj Maxwell

Formerly, 'Longer'- Songwriters: FOGELBERG, DAN

For Those That Argue For Voting For The Lesser Of Two Evils.

Thankyou Lord For This Gift

Feel Free To Post Unaltered Anywhere.

Old Lyrics In ' '

New Lyrics In Black

Links In Green

Hold Down The Shift Key, Click Here, Then Minimize To Sing New Lyrics With Music.

If You Need Help Singing This Song, Scroll To The End And Click The Click Here Link To Hear Hill-Billy Sing It.


Children Of A Lesser Fraud

New Lyrics:

You're Better Than All The Poo Poo

Shoveled Lately

Lesser Than Any Fraud I Once Knew

Straighter Than Any Liars

Up In The White House

I'm Gonna Vote Fer You

Stronger Than' Any House Of Cards Constructed.

Bigger Than Any Bonsai Grew

Lesser Than Any Liberalistic Evil.

I'm Gonna Vote Fer You

You'll Bring Nuclear Winters

They'll Bring Judgment On Our Heads

We'll Fry 'Through The Falls And Summers.'

And Shove To Get Fed

'Through The Years As The' Sulphur

Chokes This Fella

Burning Hot, Starts To Cook Through My Hide.

While The Widening Cracks In My

Hands Start To Yella

I Will Still Vote Fer You



You're Better Than All The Poo Poo

Shoveled Lately

Lesser Than Any Fraud I Once Knew

Straighter Than Any Liars

Up In The White House

I'm Gonna Vote Fer You (2x)

Bj Maxwell

New Lyrics By Bj Maxwell



Wanna Hear Hill-Billy Sing The Song Above Click Here

Lesser Of Two Evils, Does It Make Sense?

No, Click Here

My Reading Of Doug Groothuis'Article Has Lead Me To Some Conclusions Right Off The Bat.

1) This Author Has Made A Lot Of Assumptions And Claims Without Quotes Or Evidence To Support His Allegations.

2) His Expertise Is In The Cults And For That He Has Declared Mormonism And Romney:

"..heretical. No one should be a Mormon. It is 'another gospel' (see Gal 1:6-11)."

And That Romney Becoming President Would, "give Mormonism a platform it has never enjoyed before. That is bad, very bad."

But He Then Concludes Outside His Area Of Expertise BTW, That This Doesn't Matter Because Essentially, The Thousands Of Souls Lost By Giving Romney A Global Stage Never Experienced By A Mormon Before, Isn't The Issue, Getting A President That Will Save Us From Obama Is.

He Has Somehow Concluded That In Elections, Same Sex Marriage Is Bad, But Polygamy Isn't, Unless It's Obama That Promotes Polygamy By First Promoting Same Sex Unions, That Being A Blatant Heathen Is Bad But Being A Religious And Political Hypocrite And A Waffling Liar Isn't, Even Though God Calls Them Both Evil. (Romans 1) The Lesser Of Two Evils Argument Didn't Work In Germany With Hitler, And It Doesn't Work Here.


Cynthia Says:

"I couldn't believe that one caller was told that, "if they vote to re-elect Obama; that the blood of the unborn was on their hands." But, they won't acknowledge that; if they vote for Romney, that somehow they are not responsible for all the souls lost to one who believes in a "false god"! HYPOCRITES!"

Bj: Excellent Points Cynthia, Very Logical. They're Willing To Use A Measuring Stick And Logic With Those That Vote For Obama, But Not The Same Standard For Those That Vote For A Person Who's Religion And Politics Is About Lies.

You Think That Romney, Is The Lesser Of The Two Evils, But Really Is That Even For Sure. We Know More About What Obama Will Do And Say Than We Do Romney, Who's Made A Career Of Waffling On Issues, Even At Times Being For Homosexual Rights And Abortion, And Even Romney Care.

The Nature Of Mormonism Is The Nature Of Romney.

"21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but THEIR THINKING BECAME FUTILE (Romney And Obama) and their foolish hearts were darkened.22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE IMMORTAL GOD FOR IMAGES made to look like MORAL MAN (Romney-Mormonism) AND birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 THEY EXCHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD FOR A LIE, (Romney And Obama) and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator (Romney And Obama) --who is forever praised. Amen." (ROMANS 1)

I Don't Argue Against Obama Here Because We Clearly Know He's The Wrong Choice. However, 'Christians' Have Been Duped Into Thinking That Because Obama's The Wrong Choice That Romney Is The Right Choice.

Wrong Again!!!!
Mormonism Promotes Polygamy And That Is Enough, Not To Mention A False Gospel, Which Paul Condemns To Hell. (Galatians 1:8,9)
"11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them." (Ephesians 5:11)

"17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery THEY DECEIVE THE MINDS OF NAIVE PEOPLE." (Romans 16)

Romney's Pro Life Fairy Tale:




Voting For The Lesser Of Two Evils:

"He has not always been pro-life, but now SEEMS TO BE. One could go on. But we should remember that politics is not the church. It is the art of the possible. Often we must choose THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, which is also the evil of two lessers. We reside in a fallen world. Get over it....Second, protest votes are pointless. Many say, 'If my candidate is not the one, I opt out. I am above all that.' This is wrongheaded. Protest votes send no message, except that you have robbed the better of the two candidates of a vote. Like it or not, we are stuck with a two-party system for the long haul." (Groothius)

'Seems To Be'?

This Author Isn't Even Convinced That Romney Is Pro Life. This Video Shows He Waffles On That Constantly.

Romney's Pro Life Fairy Tale:


I Intend To Not Vote For Obama Or Romney.

"If people are obliged to support one person who doesn’t represent them IN ORDER TO STOP ANOTHER who also doesn’t represent them, they end up with a government that doesn’t represent them."

"The phenomenon of millions of people voting for what they say they hate, solely out of abject fear of a 'greater evil,' is in fact the destruction of the whole idea of constitutional, republican, REPRESENTATIVE self-government. In other words, it signals the demise of the United States of America."

-- Tom Hoefling, Sept. 24, 2012

Hardly Anyone Is Voting For Romney Because They Like Romney, They Are Voting For Him To Stop Obama. The Lesser Of Two Evils Folks Cannot Complain When Romney Ends Up Not Representing You.

But Then I Don't Think He Will Win And Then We Can Suggest The Next Republican Candidate Be And Represent Real 'Christian Conservatives' Not Independents Who Vote More For Democrats In An Election.

I Will Be Putting My Comments Concerning Groothius' Article At My Site, When I'm Done.


What Does It Profit A Man....

Then Doug Grootuis Goes On:

"If you are a conservative, you vote for the more conservative candidate who can win, as William F. Buckley said. Writing in Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul does no good whatsoever—except to aid the Obama campaign."


I Would Disagree With This Statement.

What Does 'More Conservative' Mean Anyhow. Is That Like Pretty Sure?


You're Either Sure Or Your Not.


You're Either Conservative Or Your Not.


No One Wins An Election By Default And If Obama Is Aided By My Non Vote, Then What Is Actually Voting For Obama, Two Votes, And If Not Voting Aids Obama, Then Non Voting Ought To Aid Romney. This Is Obviously Silly For Them To Reason This Way.

These RINOS Are The Ones That Made This Election All About Repealing Obamacare, While Millions Of Working Americans Still Don't Have Affordable Healthcare (Labelling Them As Free Loaders). Talking About Being Out Of Touch With Millions Of Americans, While They Hypocritically Claim To Be For The Unborn, Which They Really Are Not.

"We (Christians) Are A Mistress To The Republicans" James Dobson


When The RINOS Lose This Election, They Can Look At Where They Went Wrong And Ask Whether Targeting RINOS And Fickle Independents Was The Best Approach With A Mormon RINO Candidate, Who's Religion And Politics Is Based On Deceit And Waffling. (Romans 1)

Then They Can Consider How They Forsook The Tea Party At The RNC And Real Christian Conservatives And Revise Their Approach Come 2016.

What Good Does It Do To Win The Election, But Dupe Millions Of Americans Into Thinking That It Is All Right To Be A Faux 'Christian' And A RINO?

Romney Had A Prophet Preparing The Way Before These Elections And His Name Is Glenn Beck, Who Also Is A Mormon.

"But as so many of these guys would tell me ‘oh we’re not a theological group, we have to work with lots of people to reclaim the culture.’ Folks, if embracing false teachers is how you reclaim the culture I don’t want to be a part of it. Secondly, it’s not how you reclaim the culture, I think God’s Word tells us, Romans 1, this is how you destroy a culture and speed up God’s judgment." (Brannon Howse)

It Is Alarming How So Many 'Christians' Are Willing To Put Politics Above Their Spirituality, All To Combat What They Perceive As The Greater Evil.

Pro Lifers Willing To Ally With Anyone Who Is Pro Life To Save The Unborn.

What Does It Profit A Man If He Saves An Unborn Child But Then Lets Him Or Her Be Swayed By One Of His Pro Life Allies i.e., A Mormon, Muslim Or Catholic Into 'Another Gospel' Which The Apostle Paul Condemns To Hell. (Galatians 1:8,9)

Is It Any Different To Vote A Mormon Into A Global Podium Where He Or His Mormon Friends Can Claim That Mormonism Is Just Another Denomination Of Christianity.

What Does It Profit Us If One Gains The Presidency But Leads Many To Hell.

I Will Be Adding My Comments On My Page When I Have The Time, Then Transferring It To My Site At:



"If Romney is elected president, it would give Mormonism a platform it has never enjoyed before. That is bad, very bad."

I Agree, With Groothuis And For This Reason Won't Vote For Romney. Millions Of American's Eternal Destiny Is More Important To Me Than Whether They Vote Republican Or The Perceived Lesser Of Two Evils

"Mitt Romney got a rave review during this week's church service as his close friend hotel billionaire J.W. Marriott Jr. PRAISED the presidential candidate FOR BRINGING POSITIVE ATTENTION TO THEIR SHARED RELIGION.
'THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AS MUCH POSITIVE ATTENTION TO THE CHURCH, THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CAMPAIGN OF MITT ROMNEY AND HIS FAMILY,' the 80-year-old J.W. Marriott Jr. SAID at Sunday service at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in New Hampshire."

"Scott Beck, president and CEO of Visit Salt Lake, said there's no question a Mormon presidential nominee helps sell the state to tourists and conventioneers....Matthew Wilson, a professor specializing in religion and politics at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, said Romney's nomination itself is an important step in breaking down the "suspicions and barriers" some have about the LDS Church – and Utah...."That is exactly what the Mormon Church tried to accomplish with their 'I Am a Mormon' campaign, acceptance and to be part of the mainstream," Love said. "But this is unpaid and more credible."

"A major election-related concern for evangelicals has been that Mormon missionaries, using their sound-alike terminology, will take advantage of a Mormon as U.S. president to gain entrance into homes to proselytize people the world over. With over 55,000 LDS missionaries worldwide, each possibly knocking on a dozen or more doors each day, the ramifications could be huge. This translates into millions of homes each week. The July 16, 2011 World magazine, for instance, published an article in which two people took opposite positions on the question, "Can a Mormon be president?"

The one who took the "Yes" position concluded:

If having a Mormon in the White House would give cultural cachet to a false religion, then that might be a reason-the only one I can see-for evangelicals to vote against him on religious grounds.
It is interesting that the person who gave the "No" response essentially gave this very same reason for his position. I have to assume the two writers did not read each other's responses prior to submitting their papers. Here is the "No" argument:

So the real question is whether supporting a Mormon for president promotes Mormonism. My answer to that is yes. Electing a Mormon to the world's most powerful political office would dramatically raise the profile and positive perception of Mormonism. That is why I cannot in good conscience vote for Romney, despite agreeing with him in a good many social and fiscal issues."

Stoicism: Half Truths:
Marcus Aurelius A Stoic:
 "If the gods care not for me or my children,
 there is a reason for it"
'If God Care Not For Me Or My Children, There Is A Reason For It.'
-Limited Atonement
The Whole Truth Is, God Died For All But Not All Will Receive It.
"15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again." 2 Corinthians 5:15ff
The controlling intelligence understands its own nature, and what it does, and whereon it works. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, VI, 5
This Sounds Like Self Consciousness.

8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord. 9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isaiah 55)

But The Rrrest Of The Story:

6 Seek the Lord while he may be found; call on him while he is near. 7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will freely pardon. (Isaiah 55)

Now Wouldn't It Be Deceptive And Cruel To Make This Offer Appear To Be For Anyone, As It Does, But Really Mean For The Chosen Few?

Each thing is of like form from everlasting and comes round again in its cycle. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, II, 14
"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Is there anything of which one can say, "Look! This is something new"? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time....
15 Whatever is has already been, and what will be has been before; and God will call the past to account. ..."
Ecclesiastes 1:5:-10-3:15
7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction..(Ga. 6)
This Looks Like A Process, That Repeats Itself Over And Over And Getting Along In Life Is Just About Knowing That You Reap What You Sow And What Goes Around Literally Comes Around.  
But The Rrrrest Of The Story Is:
"the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers." (Ga. 6)
Now Why Would God Expect Us To Love All If He Only Loves A Few?
Nothing happens to anybody which he is not fitted by nature to bear. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, V, 18



"13 No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it. " (1 Corinthians 10)
But Scripture Goes On To The Rrrrrrrrrrest Of The Story:
'14 Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry.' (Ibid)
Whatever may befall thee, it was preordained for thee from everlasting. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, X, 5
"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things. ... 9 "Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker, to him who is but a potsherd among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, 'What are you making?' Does your work say, 'He has no hands'? 10 Woe to him who says to his father, 'What have you begotten?' or to his mother, 'What have you brought to birth?' (Isaiah 45)
Also Romans Nine.
However, Calvinists Again Miss The Other Side And Fail To See How The Two Sides Unite.
"But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work." (2 Timothy 2; KJV )
Whatever happens at all happens as it should; thou wilt find this true, if thou shouldst watch narrowly. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, IV 10
In Other Words, 'If You Have A Narrow Mind You Will Agree With him.'
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven: ...14 I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him. 15 Whatever is has already been, and what will be has been before; and God will call the past to account. 18 I also thought.  (Ecclesiastes 3)
The Rrrrrrrrrest Of The Story?


Are We No More Self Aware Than Plants And Animals?  

All that happens is as usual and familiar as the rose in spring and the crop in summer. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, IV, 44


Each thing is of like form from everlasting and comes round again in its cycle. -- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, II, 14


19 Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. (Ecclesiastes 3)

21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?" 22 So I saw that there is nothing better for a man than to enjoy his work, because that is his lot. For who can bring him to see what will happen after him? (Ecc. 3)

 The View Of Ecclesiastes Makes Man No More Self Determining Than Soulless Animals. 


What Is Plant That Thou Art Mindful Of Him? 


"What Is Man That Thou Art Mindful Of Him "

"Stoicism is characterized as a philosophy of materialism, pantheism, and fatalism. It is materialistic in the sense that everything that exists possesses corporeality and is ultimately traced back to God. The Stoic God, redolent of Plato's Timaeus, is said to be the "body" of the universe whereby God is its soul. This is how Stoicism becomes pantheistic in its understanding of the relationship between the universe and God. It further portrays a fatalistic universe by declaring that everything that occurs happens by necessity. Nothing is left to any libertarian volition. This has caused its followers to adopt a sort of apathy toward our fatalistic universe.
This apathy, say the Stoics, is characterized as "accepting the will of God", something very reminiscent of Christianity. Hence, many make the association of Stoic fatalism with the Christian doctrine of predestination (e.g. the Augustinian-Calvinist view)."
The Calvinist Will Say That They Are Not To Be Apathetic Because He Commands Them Not To.
But If Their Concept Of God Loving Some Rejecting Most Is True, How Can He Expect Them To Love More Than He Does?
Well They Say, God Doesn't Tell Us Who He Hates So We Must Love All.