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The Drier Ground

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Formerly 'Higher Ground' Sung By 'Stevie Wonder'

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New Lyrics:

Drier Ground (Previously Higher Ground)

People Keep Relearning

(Acts 7)


History Keeps Returning

(Ecclesiastes 1:4-11)


Hell Keeps On Burning

(Matt. 25:31-46)


But God Won't Take Too Long


Power Keeps Corrupting


While You're People Keep Disrupting.

(1 Kings 19:10,14; Isaiah 1:4-9; Matt. 23:37-39; 1 Thess. 2:14-18)


World Keeps Erupting

(Matt. 24:6-8)


But It Won't Take God Long

(2 Peter 3:9,10)

JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJUDGMENT ...WATER

(Matt. 24:37-39; Luke 17)


I'm So Darn Glad God Let Me Start It Again

The Last Time On Earth I Lived Amongst Wicked Men

(Genesis 6-9)

I Praise God We Know Him More Than We Knew Him Then


Gonna Keep On Trustin

(Hebrews 11:1,6,7; Heb. 11)


Til I Reach The Drier Ground


Teachers Keep On Reaching
Preachers Keep On Breaching

(1 Tim. 4:1-8)


World Keeps On Luring


And It Won't Take Him Long

(2 Peter 3)


 

Lusters Keep On Lustin

Believers Love Believing

Sleepers Keep On Dreamin

And It Won't Take Yah Long


 

I'm So Very Glad I Keep Re-in-carna-tin

(Hebrews 9:27,28)


Cause My Last Time On Earth I Was A Three Legged Hen


I'm So Glad That We Know More Than Noah And Them


Gonna Keep Vibrating


Til I Find My Mantra Sound...Whew


Til I Fly Above The Ground...Whew

Truth Ain't Gonna Bring Me Down.


 

Til I Find The Higher Ground
Did I Say I'm Fire Bound?
Why We Goin Underground?



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JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJUDGMENT ...FIRE

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03/15/2012

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"NOW THE SERPENT WAS MORE CRAFTY THAN ANY OF THE WILD ANIMALS the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?

" 2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,

3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.

5 "FOR GOD KNOWS THAT WHEN YOU EAT OF IT YOUR EYES WILL BE OPENED, AND YOU WILL BE LIKE GOD, KNOWING GOOD AND EVIL." (Genesis 3)

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER,

son of the morning ! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!13 For thou hast SAID IN THINE HEART, I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL SIT ALSO UPON THE MOUNT OF THE CONGREGATION, in the sides of the north:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit." (Isaiah 14:12-15)

 

"AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,

SO IT WILL BE AT THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,

up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen UNTIL THE FLOOD CAME AND TOOK THEM ALL AWAY. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man." (Matt. 24:37-39; Luke 17)

"Just as it was in the days of Noah,

so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all. 28" IT WAS THE SAME IN THE DAYS OF LOT.

People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 BUT THE DAY LOT LEFT SODOM (Sodomites), FIRE AND SULFUR RAINED DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND DESTROYED THEM ALL. 30 "It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

31 On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot's wife!" (Luke 17:26-32)

"They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised?

Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."

5 But THEY DELIBERATELY FORGET that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of WATER AND BY WATER.

6 BY THESE WATERS ALSO THE WORLD OF THAT TIME WAS DELUGED AND DESTROYED.

7 By the same word THE PRESENT HEAVENS AND EARTH ARE RESERVED FOR FIRE,

being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise,

as some understand slowness. He is patient

with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.

The heavens will disappear with a roar;

THE ELEMENTS WILL BE DESTROYED BY FIRE,

and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

11 SINCE EVERYTHING WILL BE DESTROYED IN THIS WAY, WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE OUGHT YOU TO BE? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.

That day will bring about the DESTRUCTION OF THE HEAVENS BY FIRE, AND THE ELEMENTS WILL MELT IN THE HEAT.

13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness." (2 Peter 2:4-13)

"Just as man is destined to DIE ONCE, and AFTER THAT TO FACE JUDGMENT, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once

to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin,

but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."

(Hebrews 9:27, 28)

 

Ye Are gods?

Satan Said To Eve:

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3)

It Seems That Many Religions Out There And Even 'Christian' Fake It Til You Make It, Believe It Receive It Organizations Promote This 'Ye Are Gods' Notion While Forgetting To Include The Rrrrest Of The Story. (Psalm 82:6,7). They Present Half Truths As The Whole Truth Making Theological Mountains From Moe Hills Relatively Speaking And Of Course Gullible Folks Are Going To Buy Into This Counterfeit Gospel Which Makes God Our Butler And His Main Concern Our Comfort While We Are Here. I'm Covering A Broad Spectrum Here, So If Some Of This Doesn't Apply To A Particular Person Or Organization Then The Rest Shouldn't Be Thrown Out With The Bath Water.

Satan Is The Master Of Half Truths.

Your Success Depends On Presenting Half The Story As The Whole Story .

Note 'As Gods' Not Gods In The Most Important Sense....Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Eternal Preexistence, Coequal, Infinite Wisdom..In Other Words, Most Ways That Matter.

God Said:

"22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" (Genesis 3)

What Made man Like God Here?

'Knowing Good And Evil'

Then What About The Following Verses:

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes." (Psalm 82:6,7)

"The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him." (John 10)

Over Twenty Years Ago After A Conversation With One Of My Aunts About The 'Other Jesus' (2 Cor. 11) Of Another Aunt And Uncle Of Mine And While Walking Out The Door, My Aunt Retorted With:

Doesn't The Bible Say: "Ye Are Gods"

This Verse Is Misapplied And Taken Out Of Context About As Much As The Verse About Not Judging.

This Misapplication Is Often Used To Either Diminish Christ Or To Raise Us To His Level, So As To Make His Claims Not So Unique And In Effect Making His Finished Work Not So Complete, And Human Works Necessary To Finish The Job. (Acts 20:28; Hebrews 10:12)

This Is Why Those That Water Down Who Christ Is Also Believe We Must Supplement Christ's Finished Work With Our Own Works Because 'Jesus Wasn't Uniquely God The Son, So His Sacrifice Wasn't Enough'.

"For it is axiomatic that if the doctrine of Christ Himself, i.e., His Person [which includes His being the second person of the Trinity] nature and work are perverted, then the identity of the life-giver is altered, then the life which He came to give is correspondingly negated." (The Kingdom of the Cults , Bethany House Publishers)

But What Do These Verses About 'gods' Mean?

First, It Is Important To Note Some Important Details.

One Point Is That It Doesn't Say, 'Ye Are Gods' It Says, "I Said, Ye Are gods"

Next, The Reference In Psalms Puts A Semicolon After "I Said, Ye Are Gods;' Then In The Next Phrase It Clarifies The Previous Phrase Which Is The Function Of A Semicolon:, With "And Children Of The Most High."

So Was This Psalm Calling Us gods i.e., Little Deities, Or Calling Us Children Of The Most High i.e., gods (possessive) Meaning God's Own.

I Would Say The Latter.

If Someone Looked At My Mom And Her Children And Asked, 'Whose Are These? I Would Answer With, 'They Are Mothers'.

Not Meaning They Were A Bunch Of Mothers But Belonged To Mother.

Jesus Appears To Verify This When After Saying ...."I Said Ye Are gods....He Speaks Of His Sonship Which Existed 'Before The Foundation Of The World', In Contast To Ours With, 'Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world.', And Ours Which Is By Adoption; 'unto whom the word of God came',

"For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:" (Romans 8)

He Is Emphasizing Our Adoption By The Most High, Belonging To God And Being sons Of God Not Us Being Little Deities.

Heretics Like The JW's That Believe That Our Sonship Is Not Much Different Than Christs Are Sadly Mistaken. Christ Isn't 'a god' Or 'a son' He Is Almighty God From All Eternity. (Isaiah 48:12-16; Genesis 1:26,27; Psalm 45:6ff)

Scriptures Never Speak Of Me Existing From All Eternity Or Anyone Existing From All Eternity Other Than The Father, Word And Holy Spirit.

"12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last. 13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. ...15 I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous. 16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, 1) there am I: and now the 2) Lord GOD, and 3) his Spirit, hath sent me." (Isaiah 48:12-16)

Notice The Three Beings Here And How They Are Described.

Not Three Gods, Three Persons One God Because Scripture Teaches That There Is Only One God.

Notice These Three Persons Possess Divine Qualities And Don't Just Exist.

"According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

But For The Sake Of Argument Let Us Suppose Jesus Was Saying Little Deities When He Said 'gods'." (2 Peter 1)

We Can Only Be Partakers Of 'The Divine Nature' To The Degree We Are In Christ The Eternally And Divinely Preexistent One. (Proverbs 8:22-31)

If We Step Out Of Christ, We No Longer Have The Divine Nature, So Whose Nature Is Being Spoken Of Here, His Or Ours.

"For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:" (Colossians 2:9,10)

If We Are Gods By Our Nature, We Would Then Have To Explain How This Interpretation Fits With The Scripture Teaching One God, Also Teaching Three Persons That Are Claiming To Be That One God.

Scripture: John 1:1-3, Philippians 2:5-11; Hebrews 1; John 20:27-31; Acts 13:1ff; Acts 5; 1 Peter 1:2; Isaiah 48:12-16)

Bj Maxwell

02/15/2010

Check Out The Following Debate Regarding Their Belief That We Are Gods.

Defendthefaithorg — May 04, 2009 — Apologia president Jeff Durbin responds to a Mormon's questions and defends the faith at the public conference "...

Reasoning With Mormons Pt. 1

 

Due To Talking To More Than One Mormon At Once On The Internet And Needing To Deal With All Their Arguments Without Appearing To Them To Not Have An Answer, I've Embedded My Answers In This Message. Some Interpret Not Being Able To Single Handedly Deal With A Tag Team Of Mormons As Not Having The Answer. Nothing Could Be Further From The Truth.

 

Some Think That Showing Our Oneness With Each Other And The Triunity Of God, Being Co Heirs, Sitting On His Throne, Being Children Or Using Misapplied Out Of Context Verses Proves Their Point That 'We Are gods'. Most Are In Actuality Relying On People Thinking For Them.

While Others Let Their Leaders Think For Them.

 

"If Two People Think The Same One Of Them Is Unnecessary "

Being A Child Of God, Inheriting His Riches, Doesn't Make Us God Or gods In The Non Possesive Sense, And Our Divine Nature Is By Being In The Divine One, Not In Our Nature, As I Pointed Out Earlier.

How Can One Be God Or a god, When Scripture Teaches One God (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6; 45:22) And When The 'gods'


Spoken In Context 'Know Nothing' (Ps. 82:5), Are Only 'As gods' In The Sense Of 'Knowing Good And Evil' Or Are In Rebellion To God. (John 10; Ps. 82), And Not Possessing Omniscience, Omnipotence Or Omnipresence Or Preexistence?

The Answer Is That They Cannot Be.

Saying That We Are 'gods' By Being In Him Proves My Point That 'Ye Are gods' Means You Belong To God Or Are In Him Thus The Divine Nature Is Christ's Nature Not Ours.

"For In Him Dwelleth The Godhead Bodily, And Ye Are Complete In Him." (Colossians 2:9,10)

There Are No Scriptures That Say We Evolve Into Godhood As Some Mormons Say.

"As Man Is God Once Was, As God Is Man May Become." Mormon Theology.

Even The Book Of Mormon Contradicts Their Own Beliefs When It Says:

"For I Know That God Is Not A Partial God, Neither A Changeable Being; But He Is Changeable From All Eternity To All Eternity." (Moroni 8:18)

This Tells Us That They Know What 'All Eternity To All Eternity' Means And Therefore This Verse Confirms Scripture In The Bible Which Says:

"From Everlasting (Eternity) To Everlasting Thou Art God." (Psalm 90:2)

Not Just A Unchangeable Being From All Eternity But An Unchangeable God.

It Appears That Things Really Devolved After The Book Of Mormon, Not That The BOM Is Perfect.

The Ones That Are 'gods' Spoken Of In Psalm 82 And John Ten Have Rejected God And Therefore Cannot Be 'In Him.'  So gods Is Possessive Not Speaking Of A Divine Nature Outside Of God.

Being One With Each Other And The Triune God Doesn't Make Us gods Anymore Than Being One With My Wife Makes Me My Wife.

Many Folks Out There Misunderstand 'Oneness' And Even Deny The Triune God Because Of This Misunderstanding. Refer To The Symbol At The Top Of This Page.

Also Being 'Granted' To Sit On His Throne Doesn't Make Us gods Or Gods Anymore Than Being Invited To Ones House Makes Me The Owner Of The House.

A Lot Of Presumptions Are Made Concering These Verses.

Ignoring My Scriptures And Posting Some Others That Don't Support One's Point Only Works With Those That Read The Critiques But Not The Thing That's Being Critiqued. This Is Not Honest Nor Smart.

 

Their Burden Is In Explaining How We Can Have More Than One God, When Scripture Plainly Says There Is Not.

"22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" (Genesis 3)

What Made man Like God Here?

'Knowing Good And Evil'

So Was Adam A God In Any Other Sense?

Did He Possess Omnipotence (All Power), Omniscience (All Knowledge) And Omnipresence (Was He Present Everywhere)?

Even Eating Of The Tree Of Life Would Only Give You Eternal Life, Not Make One Eternally Preexistent. That Would Be Revisionist History.

This Isn't 'Quantum Leap' Or 'Back To The Future' And No Amount Of Jigowatts Will Make It So.

No, Adam Was Only Like The Trinity Because He Now Knew Good And Evil And The Trichotomous Nature Of Man Is Through A Glass Darkly Similar To The Triunity Of God.

"For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8)

I've Shown Verses About God Always Being God, No God Being Formed Before Or After Him, And Our Being Mere Men Apart From Him. (Psalm 90:2; Isaiah 44:6; Isaiah 43:10; Isaiah 45:22)

These Isaiah References Verified In At Least Two Different Sources.

 

It Doesn't Say From Everlasting To Everlasting Thou Existed But Thou Art God. (Psalm 90:2)

The Isaiah References Say, There Is None Beside Me, There Is No God Beside Me, There Shall Be No God Formed Before Or After Me....

And Even Shown From The Mormons Own Book That God Doesn't Change Or Evolve. (Moroni 8:18)

Men Change, Men Wear Away, God And His Word Is Forever.

Men Have Bodies That Get Old And Die, God (The Father) Is Spirit So We Must Worship Him In Spirit And Truth. (John 4:24), God The Son Possesses A Glorified Body.

"Now Ammon Being Wise, Yet Harmless, He Said Unto Lamont: Wilt Thou Hearken Unto My Words, If I Tell Thee By What Power I Do These Things?And This Is The Thing That I Desire Of Thee. And The King Answered Him, And Said: Yea, I Will Believe All Thy Words. And Thus He Was Caught With Guile. And Ammon Began To Speak Unto Him With Boldness, And Said Unto Him: Believest Thou That There Is A God? And He Answered, And Said Unto Him: I Do Not Know What Thou Meaneth. And Then Ammon Said: Believest Thou That There Is A Great Spirit? And He Said, Yea. And Ammon Said: This Is God. ..." (Alma 18:22ff; BOM)

Any Book That Would Then Say That God the Father Has A Body After Saying 'The Great Spirit' Would Be Contradicting Itself.

Note It Doesn't Say God (The Father) Has A Spirit But Is A Spirit. Spirit Isn't Matter.

Jesus Says This About A Spirit:

"God The Son Says A Spirit Doesn't Have Flesh And Bones As You See That I Have." (Luke 24; John 20:27-31)

After Thomas Sees God The Son In His Resurrected Body (Not Yet Glorified), 'He Says Unto Him, My Lord And My God.'

This Doesn't Prove Two Gods, This Proves At Least Two Persons That Are That One God...Father And Son.

Often Those That Argue Against The Triunity Of God, Don't Even Know The Definition. These Folks Often Are Thinking Of Modalism Or Tritheism.

The Triunity Of God Is NOT Three Gods Or Three Manifestations Of God But Three Persons In One God.

Not Three Gods, Three Persons One God Because Scripture Teaches That There Is Only One God.


"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6)

Septuagint Confirmation.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/brenton/lxx/Page_879.html

Masoretic Text.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1044.htm

http://www.carm.org/kjv/Isaiah/Isaiah_44.htm

"Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God,
and there is none else." (Isaiah 45:22)

Septuagint Confirmation.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/brenton/lxx/Page_882.html

Masoretic Text.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1045.htm

http://www.carm.org/kjv/Isaiah/Isaiah_45.htm

"Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen:
that ye may know and believe me, and understand that
I am he: before me
there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me
." (Isaiah
43:10; John 8:24)

Septuagint Confirmation.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/brenton/lxx/Page_878.html

Masoretic Text.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1043.htm

There Is Only Three Persons One God By Nature, All Other gods, Are Either False, In The True God, Or Just Called Gods.

The Ones That Don't Believe In The Trinity Of God And The Trichotomy Of Man Don't Understand Salvation Or Sanctification And Rather Than Rightly Believe That God Reaches Down To Us Think That We Also Reach Up To Him.

Scripture Teaches That God The Word Was Always God And Was Eternally Preexistent And Took On Flesh 'And We Beheld His Glory' (John 1; Proverbs 8:22-31; Colossians 1:15-17; Hebrews 1; Psalm 45)

Prior To The Creation Of The 'Heaven And Earth' Time Didn't Exist And So Therefore Anything Prior To This Creation Is Eternal.

"The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; " (Proverbs 8:22-31)

Compare This With First Corinthians 1:30,31

Also Isaiah 48:12-16; Psalm 45; Genesis 1:26,27

Concerning salvation the scriptures say:

We were saved 'And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.' (Revelation 13)

We were saved before the world, according to the Father: 'For whom HE did foreknow, he also did PREDESTINATE to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.' (Romans 8)

We were saved when WE believed: 'He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.' (John 3:18)

Our SOULS are saved/sanctified when we receive the word and walk with him: 'Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your SOULS.'

Now if you don't understand or are apathetic toward the Triunity of God and the Trichotomy of man, these scriptures will confuse you and make you into a very insecure individual.

So understanding the Triunity of God and the trichotomy of man clarifies the Who, When, What person of God and part of man these scriptures are referring to in relation to the salvation process.

If you were to take a poll of those that denied the Triunity of God you would find that the majority also have a messed up view of salvation, never spiritually secure in their faith.

If one doesn't FIRST understand the Three Persons in God, The Three parts of Man, the Two Programs in place, they cannot understand the other things.

There are other examples of how ones view of God affects their view of everything else, but that will do for now. "

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Bj Maxwell

02/11/2010