Before Judaism There Was..

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Older Than Any Judaistic System.

(Genesis)

Better Than All His Angels Too

(Gen. 1:26,27; Zechariah 3; Hebrews 1:4-8)

Older Than Any Pagan Fabrication.

He Was His Plan For You.

(Genesis 1:26,27; 14:17-20;15:4-6; 18;32:22-32, 32;Col. 1:26,27; Ro. 16:25-27)

Greater Than Abraham Sent Before Him.

In The Line Of Mel-chis-idek Too.

(Gen. 14:17-20; Ps. 110; He. 7)

Longer Than All The Temporal Solutions

(Lev. 17:11; He. 7)

He Gave His Life For You

(1 Cor. 15:1-5; Heb. 7-9)

You Are, Greater Than Moshe

As The Builder Of All Things.

(Hebrews 3:3-6; Col. 1:15-17)

Therefore, God Thy God Anoints Thee

(Ps. 45:6,7; He. 1:8,9)

Offering, Priest And King

(Psalm 2; Hebrews 7-9)

'Through The Years' As My Fire 'Starts To Mellow '

Reading Lines From The Book Of Your Life

'Though the binding cracks and the pages start to yellow'

He Said He's Faithful Too.

(1 Thess. 5:23,24: ; 2 Tim. 2:13; Hebrews 12:1,2;13:5)

He Will Make These Things New

(He. 8:8,13;9:15;10:20;12:24;Eph. 2:14-17; Col. 3:10)

Better Things, Things That Follow Such Salvation

(He. 6:9-11; 10:39)

So Much More Than The Hebrews Knew

(He. 9:11-14;11:4)

Better Home And A Better Resurrection

(He. 8:6; 9:23; 10:34; 11:16; 11:35)

Saved Us Completely Too.

(He. 7:22-25; He. 10:12-18)

'I am in love with you.'

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The Following Refutation Is In Response To The Anti Christian Sentiments Of A Particular 'Rabbi'.

For The Audio Version Click Here.

For The Written Version Read Below

Jesus Tells Us To Call No Man Rabbi, So When I Say 'Rabbi' There Are Quotation Marks Around It Because This Is What He And Others Say, Not Me. (Matt. 23:7-11)

Written Refutation By Bj Maxwell At:

http://maxwellshouse.org/beforejudaism.html

https://maxwellshouse1.tripod.com/beforejudaism.html

Reading By Little Billy, Yours Truly

We Reveal Just What Your Average Jewish Counter Missionary Actually Knows About Christianity.

Basically Most Of Them Are Creating Strawmen To Knock Down.

That's Because Just Like The Scarecrow Of Oz, They Don't Have Any Brains.

Sing- 'If I Only Had A Brain'

http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/applause-sounds/app-21.mp3

Consider Christianity The Foundation Of Judaism.

You Heard Me!!

A Refuation Of 'Rabbi' Asher Meza

http://maxwellshouse.org/beforejudaism.html

If This 'Rabbi' Removes His Video From Youtube Just Listen To This Audio, That I Recorded.

After My Refutations Is Ashers Arguments.

Due To Short Attention Spans, Including Mine,

http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/people_sound_effects/laugh_2.wav

Funny, It Takes Longer To Clear Up Folks Misconceptions Of Christianity Than It Does For These Folks To Make These False Statements.

Bj Also Wants It Short And Sweet, Which Is What I Am.

http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/applause-sounds/app-21.mp3

Don't Know Whether They're Clapping Because I'm Short And Sweet Or Because I'm Gonna Keep It Short And Sweet. Hmmm

Links Are Given Audibly And At The Above Link So That The 'Scholars' Can Refer To For Further Study.

　The Genealogy Of Jesus:

1) Through Joseph

2) Through Mary

(Matthew, Luke)

Lineage Must Come Through The Father, Since Jesus Was Born Of A Virgin...Well....

"Joseph was called Jesus father because Joseph functioned, during Jesus childhood at any rate, as the head of the family of which Jesus was a member. This was the normal practice in first-century Judaism (and earlier): if your mother was a remarried widow, your step-father was known as your father, and you (if you were male) were legally the heir of both your physical father and your step-father."

http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1089

A Good Website To Deal With This Argument Is:

http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matthew-mark/why-are-there-different-genealogies-jesus-matthew-1-and-luke-3

The Only Problem With This Site Is No Cartoons.

http://soundbible.com/1279-Goofy-Laugh.html

Asher Says:

No Need Of Blood Or Human Sacrifice In Torah:

'Sacrifice Not The Only Way To Atonement'

Oh Really, What About Isaiah 53, Which Points To A Righteous Individual (Certainly Not Israel-1 Kings 19:10,14; Isaiah 1:4ff), Who Takes On The Sins Of 'All' (53:), And Ignores The Correct Translation Of Ps. 40:6ff, 'A Body Thou Hast Prepared'....More On That Later.

Asher Says, Sacrifice Is Foundational To Christianity.

He Attempts To Prove This By Offering A Slew Of Verses. We Will Check These Out, At The Following Link, Also At

MaxwellsHouse.org/BeforeJudaism.html

Ps. 51:16,17; 34:18;40:6; Ho. 6:6; 14:2; Pr. 28:13; 1 Kings 8:38,39;Job 33:26; Micah 6:6; Jer. 7:22,23; Nu 16:47; Lev. 5:11-13 -This Link Shows All The Verses In One Glance, Here.

He, He, He,....

Its Quite Funny That Asher Includes Ps. 40:6 Which Says 'Piercing My Ears', Or 'Opening My Ears' Is The Way To Be Saved.

Asher Needs His Ears Opened So He Can Hear About The Body That God Prepared.

"6 Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but (my ears you have pierced); burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require." (Ps. 40:6)

'By The Mouth Of Two Or Three Witnesses A Word Shall Be Established.' (Throughout The Bible)-Link

The Last Pic I Saw Of Meza, He Wasn't Wearing Any Earrings.

More Here Indiana Jones And The Golden Idol:

Or Google 'Indiana Jones And The Golden Idol ' And 'Bj Maxwell'

The Greek Septuagint Does Not Agree With The Maz Text.

"Sacrifice And Offering Thou Wouldest Not, But A Body Thou Hast Prepared Me: Whole-Burnt Offering And Sacrifice For Sin Thou Didst Not Require." (Psalm 40:6)

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/brenton/lxx/Page_721.html

All Of The Scriptures That Asher Meza Gives Doesn't Contradict What A Person Needs To Do To Become A Christian, They Are Part And Parcel Of It. However, Meza Has An Either Or Method Of Interpretation Where He Says That The OT Actually Contradicts Itself And One Must Believe The Teaching That Has The Most Scriptural Support:

In Reality All Of The Verses Above Are Part Of One Becoming A Christian:

A) Admit You're A Sinner (1 John 1:8; Isaiah 1:18)

B) Believe In Jesus And His Sacrifice For You (Isaiah 53:1; 1 Cor. 15:1-5; John 3:16; Ro. 10)

C) Confess Your Sins To God (1 John 1:9)

Little Billy: I Know My A,B,C's How About You?

http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/applause-sounds/app-13.mp3

If You Click The Link At The Top You Can See All the Scriptures That Meza Gives And Agree With My Statements.

Sorry Asher, Out Of The Mouth Of Babes, Cause The Grown Ups Have Messed It Up.

'Rabbi' Asher Says The Christian Trinity Is A Pagan Concept And Compares The Triune God To The Pagan Religions Depiction Of Tritheism Or Modalism. This Tells Us How Much Meza Knows About The Teaching Of The Triune God, Which BTW, Precedes Judaism And Can Be Proven In Genesis, Even Before Israel Existed.

maxwellshouse.org/beforejudaism.html

When Bj Debates Folks On The Trinity They Almost Without Fail Are Arguing Against Tritheism, Which Is Not What The Triune God Is, So They Don't Even Know What They Are Arguing Against And Their Straw Man Is Not What Christianity Teaches. -Stay Tuned For My Strawman Song.

Throughout Meza's Video, He Shows Pictures Of Catholicism i.e. The Sacred Heart Of Jesus...That Tells Me That He Also Equates Catholicism With Christianity, Which Isn't Accurate.

Catholicism And Judaism Are Similar In That They Teach Works For Salvation, One 'Works Of The Law' The Other 'Works Of Sacraments'. God Spoke Of Works To Show How Incapable Man Was Without Him.

Meza Then Says That The Concept Of A 'Virgin Birth' Is Not Jewish. Now If It Was, What Would Make It 'A Sign' As Isaiah Did, It Would Be Nothing New. Then Meza Says Christians Say That 'Virgin' Is Bethulah In Hebrew, Which They Don't. They Don't Argue Against The Hebrew Word Almah Being Used, Only With Its Applications. The Jewish Scholars Of The Greek Septuagint Translated That Word Into, A Greek Word, Which Clearly Means 'Virgin' (Isaiah 7:14)

Meza Then Shows His Ignorance Of Christianity And Also Catholicism Again By Referring To The Virgin Birth Of Jesus As The 'Immaculate Conception.' The Catholic Definition Of This Phrase Is That Mary Was Born Without Sin, Not Anything To Do With Jesus. This Is A Purely Catholic And Unbiblical Doctrine, Not Taught In Christianity.

Meza Says: Nowhere In The 613 Laws of Torah Does It Say That One Must Believe In Messiah To Be Saved.

Not Receiving The Body That Was Prepared Resulted In A Horrific Event.

Meza Goes On To Say That 'When He Does Truly Come' We Will All Know Him From The Least To The Greatest. Of Course He Is Quoting From Jeremiah 31:33ff Regarding How He Will Come In The End To 'The House Of Judah' And 'The House Of Israel'. This Isn't Making Any Reference To Gentiles Or Saying What Happens Prior To That i.e. Now.

This Is One Funny 'Rabbi' Because He Points Out That One Must Understand The Foundation Of Their Faith (4:22 In The Video), Obviously Wanting To Point Us To His Opinion That Paganism Is The Foundation Of Christianity. However, While At His Page, He Deleted My Comments And Proof Showing How Christian Teachings Precede Judaism And Are In Actuality The Foundations Of Judaism. (Genesis), So If He Takes His Own Advice He Should Look Into Genesis (Part Of The Torah), Where Salvation By Grace Through Faith Is Taught (Abraham Genesis 15), The Triune God Is Taught (Gen. 1:26,27), Eating Meat Is Taught (Genesis 9), The Theophanies Of God Happened. (Appearing To Abraham, Jacob Wrestling With God), Even The Personality Of The Serpent And Him Being Satan Is Taught. (Ezekiel 28)

　Once Jewish Scholars Translated The Hebrew Scriptures Into Greek (300 B.C.), We See The Trichotomy Of Man Being Taught, A Virgin Birth, And Jonah Not Pinnochio In The Belly Of A Whale Not Just A Great Fish, ...

Meza Says That, Abrahams Descendants Were Rewarded When They Kept The Law But Followers Of Jesus Are Rewarded When They Don't Keep The Law.

Jesus Didn't Say This He Said:

"Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matt. 5:19)

Righteousness Surpassing The Pharisees And Teachers Of The Law, Oops, That Is Asher Meza.

If Jesus Taught Folks To Disobey The Law He Would Come Under His Own Judgment, But He Didn't Teach What Meza Says. He Did Say That It's Impossible With Man To Be Saved By Keeping The Law. (Mark 10), And Pointed To A Higher Law That Would Take Us Beyond Mere Observance Of 613 Rules To Something Much Better.

This 'Rabbi' Wouldn't Even Graduate My Sunday School With What He Thinks Christianity Teaches.

Truth Is Christian Teachings Precede, Supercede And Are Based On Better Things.

Christianity is based on a better and greater Saviour than Moses (Hebrews 1:3,4; 3:3;7:7), a better hope (Hebrews 7:19),a better covenant (7:22;8:6), better promises (8:6), a better sacrifice (9:23), a better country (11:16), better things (11:40;12:24), a better resurrection (11:35), and a better and enduring substance (10:34)

These Refutations And More Are At MaxwellsHouse.org

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Thankyou, Little Billy

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Christianity Predates Judaism And I Can Prove It.

All I Ever Needed To Know I Learned While Debating Jewish Counter Missionaries.

Christian Teachings Predate And Supercede Judaism And Any False Or Incomplete Religion Out There. Effectively Opposing Those That Present Judaism Or Parts Of Judaism As The Whole Truth Is All That Is Necessary To Knowing How To Refute Any False Or Incomplete World View Out There That Also Rejects The Rrrrrest Of The Story.

Think I'm Out Of My Mind?

That's Beside The Point, But I'm Not Out Of God's Mind. (Philippians 2:5-11)

First, The Biblical Events And Saints Are Presented For Our Complete Learning Here, Especially Concerning Faith. (Hebrews 11; Philippians 3:17; 2 Thessalonians 3:9;2 Peter 2:6-7;1 Thessalonians 1:7;1 Corinthians 10:10-11)

כו וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹהִים, נַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם בְּצַלְמֵנוּ כִּדְמוּתֵנוּ; וְיִרְדּוּ בִדְגַת הַיָּם וּבְעוֹף הַשָּׁמַיִם, וּבַבְּהֵמָה וּבְכָל-הָאָרֶץ, וּבְכָל-הָרֶמֶשׂ, הָרֹמֵשׂ עַל-הָאָרֶץ.
26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

(Jewish Publication Society, Genesis 1)

It Is Not Possible That Any Religion Could Precede The Triune God Creating The Trichotomous Man. Note The Words 'Us' And 'Our' Which Are Plural PERSONal Pronouns.

Lord-YHWH-Is Singular, God-Elohim-Is Plural ..Gods, Together Lord God A Plurality With One Lord. (Hebrew In Genesis)

"Melichisidek... " (Genesis 14)

More On Him Below. Don't Forget To Click The Links.

Preincarnated And Divine Messiah?

ה וַיּוֹצֵא אֹתוֹ הַחוּצָה, וַיֹּאמֶר הַבֶּט-נָא הַשָּׁמַיְמָה וּסְפֹר הַכּוֹכָבִים--אִם-תּוּכַל, לִסְפֹּר אֹתָם; וַיֹּאמֶר לוֹ, כֹּה יִהְיֶה זַרְעֶךָ. 5 And He brought him forth abroad, and said: 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars, if thou be able to count them'; and He said unto him: 'So shall thy seed be.'

ו וְהֶאֱמִן, בַּיהוָה; וַיַּחְשְׁבֶהָ לּוֹ, צְדָקָה. 6 And he believed in the LORD; and He counted it to him for righteousness.

(Jewish Publication Society, Genesis 15:5,6)

Note That Abraham Is Saved/Justified By Simply Believing The God He Believes In. This Is Apart From Any Works. (Romans 4)

א וַיֵּרָא אֵלָיו יְהוָה, בְּאֵלֹנֵי מַמְרֵא; וְהוּא יֹשֵׁב פֶּתַח-הָאֹהֶל, כְּחֹם הַיּוֹם.
1 And the LORD appeared unto him by the terebinths of Mamre

...

לב וַיֹּאמֶר אַל-נָא יִחַר לַאדֹנָי, וַאֲדַבְּרָה אַךְ-הַפַּעַם--אוּלַי יִמָּצְאוּן שָׁם, עֲשָׂרָה; וַיֹּאמֶר לֹא אַשְׁחִית, בַּעֲבוּר הָעֲשָׂרָה. 32 And he said: 'Oh, let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once. Peradventure ten shall be found there.' And He said: 'I will not destroy it for the ten's sake.'

לג וַיֵּלֶךְ יְהוָה--כַּאֲשֶׁר כִּלָּה, לְדַבֵּר אֶל-אַבְרָהָם; וְאַבְרָהָם, שָׁב לִמְקֹמוֹ.
33 And the LORD went His way, as soon as He had left off speaking to Abraham; and Abraham returned unto his place.

(Hebrew Bible, Jewish Publication Society, Gen. 18)

כה וַיִּוָּתֵר יַעֲקֹב, לְבַדּוֹ; וַיֵּאָבֵק אִישׁ עִמּוֹ, עַד עֲלוֹת הַשָּׁחַר. 25 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. ...

כט וַיֹּאמֶר, לֹא יַעֲקֹב יֵאָמֵר עוֹד שִׁמְךָ--כִּי, אִם-יִשְׂרָאֵל: כִּי-שָׂרִיתָ עִם-אֱלֹהִים וְעִם-אֲנָשִׁים, וַתּוּכָל. 29 And he said: 'Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel; for thou hast striven with God and with men, and hast prevailed.'..

לא וַיִּקְרָא יַעֲקֹב שֵׁם הַמָּקוֹם, פְּנִיאֵל: כִּי-רָאִיתִי אֱלֹהִים פָּנִים אֶל-פָּנִים, וַתִּנָּצֵל נַפְשִׁי. 31 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: 'for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.'

(Hebrew Bible, Gen. 32)

Colombo Has Just One Question: How Do Abraham And Jacob See God In The Form Of A Man When Exodus Says That No Man Can See God?

Which Person Of The Godhead Is Being Represented In Genesis Here?

All These Events, Truths And Realities Precede The Forming Of Judaism In Exodus.

In The Scriptures Above We Have Pre Judaistic Evidence Of A Plurality Of Persons In One God, The Grace Of God Toward Abraham Through Only Faith, And God The Word (Not Father) Preincarnated To Abraham And Jacob.

These Are The Principle Tenets Of A Pre Judaistic Faith That Christianity Now Reveals To All And They Predate Any Other Religion Out There And Those Religions That Jewish Counter Missionaries In Bed With Pagans Claim That Teach A Trinity Are Really Teaching Tritheism, Which Is Not Trinitarianism At All.

"The inconceivably complete identity of God is the paradigm of all personhood, at its very plurality is the foundation of all relatedness. Such is the 'image of God' in which we are made. In that light, the doctrine of the Trinity is not some facile
mystification, but a straightforward statement of the multiple
personhood of God ...If God is a Person, that ... translates into moral absolutes for us ... humanity's alienation from God has occurred at precisely that level of character and relationship." (Dave Hunt, The Mysterious Trinity)

The Counter Missionaries Reject Genesis And The Teachings Of The Tanakh And Change The Identity Of Messiah, So Therefore Must Create A World View Where Man Takes Up The Slack For Or Replaces God And Puts Them In Power. This Is Like Any Other Religion In Its Theology And Soteriology (How To Be Saved), Or How To Evolve.

"the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is NOW DISCLOSED TO THE SAINTS. 27 To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory." (Colossians 1:26,27)

"Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, 26 but NOW REVEALED and made known THROUGH THE PROPHETIC WRITINGS by the command of the eternal God, so that ALL NATIONS might believe and obey him-- " (Romans 16:25)

"For it is axiomatic that if the doctrine of Christ Himself, i.e., His Person [which includes His being the second person of the Trinity] nature and work are perverted, then the identity of the life-giver is altered, then the life which He came to give is correspondingly negated." (Walter Martin, The Kingdom of the Cults , Bethany House Publishers)

The Cults Are Just Following In The Steps Of The Pharisees Of Old And Of Jesus Day By Altering And Rejecting The True Identity Of The Messiah, Teachings Of The Tanakh And Pre Judaistic Teachings. (1 Kings 19:10ff; Isaiah 1:4; Matthew 23)

Not Only That, If True Judaism Is Presented As The Whole Story, It Will Never Realize The Fulfillment Of The Messianic Prophecies Of The Tanakh.

The Counter Missionaries Say:

"The final Messiah will be a normal human being, born of human parents. It is thus possible that he is already born.

Similarly, the Messiah will be mortal. He will eventually die and bequeath his kingdom to his son or his successor. Tradition states that he will be a direct descendant of King David, son of Jesse, as it its written, "A shoot will come forth from the stock of Jesse, and a branch will grow from his roots" (Isaiah 11:1)."

http://messiahtruth.yuku.com/topic/467/t/Why-Jews-Know-Jsus-was-a-false-messiah.html

They Assume That Because He Is From The Line Of David That He Will Be A Mere Mortal.

The Old Testament/Tanakh Disagrees With Them. (Gen. 1:26; Ps. 110:1,2; Psalm 45:6,7; Isaiah 48:16)

But These Counter Missionaries Prefer The Tradition Of men, And An Incomplete Story Over All God's Words:

"And the Lord said: Forasmuch as this people draw near, and with their mouth and with their lips do honour Me, but have removed their heart far from Me, and their fear of Me is a commandment of men learned by rote" (Isaiah 29:13)

The Cults And Wayward Churches Or Denominations Do The Same, Putting The Words Of Men (Rabbis, Cult Leaders, Evolutionists, Scientists) On And Equal Or Higher Level Than God's Words.

God: "31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

And there was evening, and there was morning --the sixth day. ...2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from ALL HIS WORK.

3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." (Gen. 1:31-2:3)

Secular Science And Theistic Evolution:

Man: 'Six Days Doesn't Mean Six Days.'

God: 'After Its Kind' (Genesis)

Man: 'After Its Kind' Doesn't Mean 'After Its Kind.'

God: 'Behold God Saw All That He Made, And It Was Very Good.'

Man: 'Behold God Saw All That He Made, And It Needed Lots Of Work'

The Particular Verses Used To Refute Each System May Be Different, But They All Reject The Essentials. The Reasons They Are In Error And What To Use To Refute These Errors Remains The Same.

"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." (Acts 17:11)

Did Paul Use Secular Sources Or Science To Refute Those In Error?

He May Have Used It To Show Commonalities But I Personally Cannot Recall Him Using Non Biblical Sources To Refute Those In The World.

Paul's Purpose At Athens: Becoming All Things To All People

Therefore God, Thy God Hath Anointed Thee. (Ps. 45)

Holy, Holy, Holy, Are You Lord God Almighty

Worthy Is The Lamb....Sing Along Here

After You Have Clicked The Links Minimize Or Click The Back Button To Get Back Here.

I Don't Know How Many Times I've Heard Jewish Counter Missionaries Claim:

1) That The Coming Messiah Will Be A Mere Mortal And Not God.

Here

And

'Rabbi' Tovia Singer Debates A Jews For Jesus Guy That Needs To Go Home And Study Here.

AND

2) That Christianity Is A Religion That Stole Its Ideas From Earlier Pagan Religions.

http://messiahtruth.com/response.html

'Messiah Truth' Here Isn't Promoting Messiah Truth.

They Don't Use Scripture But The Tradition Of The Rabbis To Make These Claims And These Counter Missionaries Also Don't Mind Stealing Their Arguments From Pagans As Long As Those Pagan Arguments Aren't Applied To Their Own Religion.

I Have Had And Am Having Debates With Jewish Counter Missionaries Enough To Know.

It's Easy To Refute These Arguments, Because Christianity Got Its Ideas From Judaism. Christianity Is The Fulfillment Of The Predictions Of The Old Testament As I Will Show, Including The Prophecies Regarding The Divine Identity Of The Messiah, That They Rejected. The New Thing In Christianity Was That Through The Suffering Messiah Of Isaiah 53 The Gentiles Would Be Included.

The Following Old Testament Scriptures Have Links Embedded That Take You To Other Scriptures From The Masoretic Text, Septuagint And The Dead Sea Scrolls. My Belief Is That God Anticipated All These Jewish Counter Missionary Arguments And Their Efforts To Tamper With The Text And Had An Answer In More Than One Set Of Manuscripts And In His Word For Them.

The Bible Interprets Itself.

ז  כִּסְאֲךָ אֱלֹהִים, עוֹלָם וָעֶד;    שֵׁבֶט מִישֹׁר, שֵׁבֶט מַלְכוּתֶךָ. 7 Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever; a sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

ח  אָהַבְתָּ צֶּדֶק,    וַתִּשְׂנָא-רֶשַׁע:
עַל-כֵּן מְשָׁחֲךָ אֱלֹהִים אֱלֹהֶיךָ, שֶׁמֶן שָׂשׂוֹן--    מֵחֲבֵרֶךָ. 8 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated wickedness; {N} therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Ps. 45, Jewish Publication Society, Masoretic Text)

Also In The Septuagint Here.

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"14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent: 'Because thou hast done this, cursed art thou from among all cattle, and from among all beasts of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; they shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise their heel.' {S} " (Genesis 3:15, JPS)

"Noteworthy also in this first prophecy is the nomenclature of the Messiah as the “Seed of the Woman,” which points to His extraordinary birth of a Woman, Who will conceive without the participation of a man. Here the absence of a physical father is significant considering in Old Testament times descendants were always identified paternally, not maternally. " (The Prophecies in the Books of Moses )

Some Of These Counter Missionary Claims Are Refutable At Netflix If You Order The Movie:

'Where Facts And Fiction Meet',Specifically Regarding Mithras.

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Also You Are Spiritually Challenged If:

6) You Think There Is Something To The DUH Vinci Code Because Ron Howard Made A Movie About It. (Romans 1:22)

Truth Is None Of These 'Pre Christian Beliefs That Actually Were Written During The Formation Of Their Pagan Religions Predates The Tanakh/Old Testament Prophetic Events Mentioned In The Bible. How Does One Predate The First Man And Woman And The First Predictive Prophecy In Genesis 3:15?

A Virgin Birth And The Deity Of The Saviour Is Predicted In The Tanakh And Predates Any Pathetically Poor Pagan Imitations.

Will The Real Lamb Of God Please Roar Already?

Many Jewish Counter Missionaries Argue That Israel Is The Suffering Servant Mentioned In Isaiah 53 Not Jesus/Yeshua. A Smug And Swaying, Lip Smaking 'Rabbi' Asher Argues That The 'Lamb Of God' Is A Pagan Concept Here.

Asher Claims That Genesis 22 Is A Prophecy Of The Passover, Doesn't Point To Jesus Or His Sacrifice And The Teaching Of The 'Lamb Of God' Is A Pagan Concept.

Click The Following Links To Let The Bible Interpret Itself.

Green Typically Means A Link That Gives Multitudes Of Verses From The Masoretic Text, Septuagint And Even The Dead Sea Scrolls.

"By The Mouth Of Two Or Three Witnesses, A Word Shall Be Established." (Bible)

"And Isaac spoke unto Abraham his father, and said: 'My father.' And he said: 'Here am I, my son.' And he said: 'Behold the fire and the wood; but where is the lamb (Isaiah 53:5-7) for a burnt-offering?' (HOLOkarposin Root Of The Word Holocaust)

8 And Abraham said: 'God will provide Himself the Lamb (John 1:20; Is. 53:7; Revelation 5:6ff ) for a burnt-offering (A Holocaust), my son.' So they went both of them together....11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said: 'Abraham, Abraham.' And he said: 'Here am I.' 12 And he said: 'Lay not thy hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him; for now I know that thou art a God-fearing man, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, (Ps. 40:6-Septuagint) thine only son, (John 3:16) from Me. 13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in the thicket by his horns. And Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt-offering (Holocaust) in the stead of his son....16 and said: 'By Myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son, 17 that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the seashore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 18 and in thy seed (Not Then Or Presently Israel-Is. 1:4; 1 Kings 19:10ff; ) shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast hearkened to My voice.'" (Jewish Publication Society; Genesis 22:7ff)

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0122.htm

http://onlineparallelbible.com/genesis/22.htm

"Ultimately, God would provide, Himself, a Lamb, but in the figure which preceded the ultimate fulfillment He would provide (for) himself a respectable approximation of a lamb to... show that the perfect fulfillment was yet to... come." (Sir Robert Easter)

"Sacrifice And Offering Thou Wouldest Not, But A Body Thou Hast Prepared Me: Whole-Burnt Offering And Sacrifice For Sin Thou Didst Not Require." (Septuagint; Psalm 40:6)

'But A Body Thou Hast Prepared Me' Has Been Removed From Masoretic Text By Jewish Counter Missionaries After The Translation Of The Septuagint Here.

"Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals." 6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth." (Revelation 5)

The Sacrifice Lamb, Sung By Joel Chernoff Here.

Worthy Is The Lamb, By Carmen Here.

Who Is Mel, According To Rabbi Asher

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The First Chapter In Hebrews Seven Shows That Jesus Is King, Priest And Sacrifice And What We Have Now Is Better.

"This Melchizedek was KING (Matt. 21:4ff) of Salem and PRIEST of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and BLESSED HIM, 2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, his name means "KING of righteousness"; then also, "KING of Salem" means "KING (Zech. 9:9) of peace." 3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a PRIEST FOREVER. 4 Just think how great he was: EVEN the patriarch ABRAHAM gave him a tenth of the plunder!

5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people

--that is, their brothers--even though their brothers are descended from Abraham. 6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and BLESSED HIM who had the promises. 7 And without doubt the lesser person is BLESSED BY THE GREATER. 8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by men who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.

9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

Jesus Like Melchizedek

11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come --one (Kata-According To) IN THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK, not in the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law. 13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.

14 For it is clear that our LORD descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. 15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, 16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of THE POWER OF AN INDESTRUCTABLE LIFE. 17 For it is declared: "You are a PRIEST FOREVER, in the order of Melchizedek."

18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless

19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and A BETTER HOPE is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

20 And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath, 21 but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him: "The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: 'You are a priest forever.' "

22 Because of this oath, JESUS has become the guarantee of a BETTER COVENANT. 23 Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24 but because JESUS LIVES FOREVER, he has a PERMANENT PRIESTHOOD.

25 THEREFORE HE IS ABLE TO SAVE COMPLETELY those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. 26 Such a high priest meets our need--one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens.

27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He SACRIFICED FOR THEIR SINS ONCE FOR ALL WHEN HE OFFERED HIMSELF. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever." (Hebrews 7)

This Page Is My Attempt To Make Things As Short As Possible. The Following Few Paragraphs Are My Biblical Response To Arguments From A Jewish Rabbi Against The Messianic Prophecies Of The Old Testament Here, Here And Here. If You Listen To This Counter Missionary's Videos, Don't Forget To Click The Back Button, To Get Back Here For Their Refutation.

Regarding Genesis 3:15, Other Prophecies And Their Fulfillments Two Of The Following Short Chapters And Specific Words Therein Are Linked To Other Verses For Clarification And Their Fulfillment. Just Click.

Pay Special Attention To The Words Right Hand, Footstool, Head(s), Enemies, (Y)oshua/(Y)Jeshua, The Satan, The Devil, The Lord Said, The Lord Rebuke You, My Servant The Branch, Sanctuary And Especially The Links Connected To Melchisidek And The Parenthetical Links (Link) Afterwards.

Words Linked To Other Verses Are Highlighted. Just Click.

The Resurrection And Ascension Of Messiah/The Anointed One As Fulfilling Prophecy

"1 A Psalm of David. {N} (Isaiah 55:11; Hebrews 1:1,2)

The LORD saith unto my lord: (Acts 2:34-37; Hebrews 1:8-14 ; Ps. 45:6,7 ;Ps. 2:4-12) 'Sit thou at My right hand, (Rev. 12:5, 7-9) until (Rev. 20) I make thine enemies (Zechariah 3:1b) thy footstool. The rod of Thy strength the LORD will send out of Zion: 'Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.'(1 Thessalonians 2:14-15, 18; Hosea 4:5,6; Jerry 50:6; Matt. 15:3,6)

3 Thy people offer themselves willingly (Luke 10:17,18) in the day of thy warfare (Ephesians 6); {N} in adornments of holiness, from the womb of the dawn, thine is the dew of thy youth.
4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent: 'Thou art a priest (Zechariah 3:1,8; And Sacrifice Genesis 14:18 With Luke 22:19,20 With Revelation 13:8 ) for ever {N} after the manner of (according to- Kata ) Melchizedek. (Genesis 14:17-20; Dead Sea Scrolls; 11Q13; Hebrews 7:4-11)

5 The Lord at thy right hand doth crush kings (Ezekiel 28) in the day of His wrath. 6 He will judge among the nations; He filleth it with dead bodies, He crusheth the head (Genesis 3:15) over a wide land. (Romans 16:20)

7 He will drink of the brook in the way; therefore will he lift up the head." {P} (Psalm 110)

"After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One (Psalm 45:6,7) will be cut off and will have nothing. (Isaiah 53)

The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: (Romans 16:20)

War will continue until the end, and desolations

have been decreed." (Daniel 9)